{"id":3321,"date":"2014-02-24T19:23:02","date_gmt":"2014-02-24T19:23:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/?page_id=3321"},"modified":"2017-08-21T15:26:08","modified_gmt":"2017-08-21T15:26:08","slug":"about-face-the-slippery-slope","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/?page_id=3321","title":{"rendered":"About face-The slippery slope"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>STABILITY RISK ASSESSMENT<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Stability-Risk-Assessment1.pdf\">Stability Risk Assessment[1]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>SUPPLIED INFORMATION RELATING TO AN ASPECT OF THE RATTLECHAIN SITE&#8217;S CLOSURE REPORT. This report was sent to us by The Environment Agency as part of <a title=\"REQUEST\" href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/?page_id=258\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a freedom of information request<\/a>. We have summarised the report compiled by URS for Rhodia here.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/scan0006.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/scan0006.jpg\" alt=\"scan0006\" width=\"587\" height=\"237\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/scan0007.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/scan0007.jpg\" alt=\"scan0007\" width=\"595\" height=\"246\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>THEIR <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">AIM<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;The SRA Report forms part of the application process for the Pollution Prevention and Control (PPC) Authorisation for operating landfills.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">This SRA was completed to address the requirements of Part B of the Application Form for the Landfill Sector, and Section C: Stability Risk Assessment Report Guidelines of the Environmental (sic) Agency.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>APPARATUS<\/strong><\/span>&#8211; 54 site surveying pegs, URS Corporation limited- Slope stability assessment of the Northern Eastern embankment of the Rattlechain lagoon, Ref 44557-041\/RJC, dated 1 September 2004,\u00a0British geological survey map Sheet 168 Birmingham,<\/p>\n<p>URS Corporation limited Options Study for restoration of the Rattlechain sludge lagoon Ref 1064\/44557-020-787\/JC\/RC, dated 20th March 2002, Cremer and Warner report (1990-91), URS Corporation Ltd, Additional investigation and monitoring of the Rattlechain lagoon R0487\/44557-041\/lj\/ih\/ra\/rev1, dated 10th May 2004.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>METHOD<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The apparatus was collected and set up as shown in the diagram. \ud83d\ude06 (Page 33 refers). The following disclaimer note comment at page 1 was noted<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;Unless otherwise stated in this Report, the assessments made assume that the sites and facilities will continue to be used for their current purpose without significant change. The conclusions and recommendations contained in this Report are based upon Information provided by others and upon the assumption that all relevant Information has been provided by those parties from whom it has been requested. Information obtained from third parties has not been independently verified by URS, unless otherwise stated in the Report.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>URS carried out<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;a stability study of the north eastem embankment between February and May 2004, which included an intrusive investigation and land surface topographic monitoring of the embankment. The investigation was undertaken primarily to assess the potential of a slope failure impacting on the Birmingham Canal, which is located on top of the embankment and approximately 40-50m from the embankment crest.&#8221;<\/span> <\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Elements of the lagoon that\u00a0were\u00a0assessed were<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">Basal Sub-grade;<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>Side Slopes Sub-Grade;<\/li>\n<li>Basal Lining System;<\/li>\n<li>Side Slope Lining System;<\/li>\n<li>Waste Mass Model; and<\/li>\n<li>Capping System.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;A total of 54 surveying pegs were installed on the embankment across nine pre-selected sections, The surveying pegs were monitored for a period of 4 months, from 23&#8243; February to 27th May 2004, after which the increased presence of vegetation and the effects of vandalism reduced the potential for monitoring of the pegs.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>RESULTS<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;The pumping station that critically maintains a positive hydraulic gradient between the lagoon surface and the surrounding ground water could not be affected by a potential waste displacement since the gravel causeway that divides the lagoon offers a degree of protection.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">It is considered unlikely that the waste mass represents a risk for the stability of the lagoon.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>CONCLUSION<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The first point to note about studies such as this is that they are entirely dependent on a computer software programme simulation.These have two benefits for the environmental consultant presenting a purely theoretical report for the client.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Few people, especially members of the public have\u00a0 access\u00a0to nor the ability to question what a computer simulation says is &#8220;right&#8221;. The input that is put into them by the environmental consultant is a different matter,\u00a0that appears dependent on over complex equations, again of questionable content which are presented in tables based on a method which is again unlikely\u00a0to have been seen by the layman\u00a0and in tables to pad out the quasi- science that backs up the argument that they are trying to promote. <strong>Bottom line- the people who \u00a0enter things into computers usually get the result that they want to show.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>The programmes allow the presentation of glossy diagrams and pictures in different pastal shades which look good on paper whether they relate to actual reality or not.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The problem with this is that the conclusions presented are not challenged by any regulator, who presumably may be too embarrased to question the validity of what a computer says is accurate. The Environment Agency would have neither the time nor resources to evaluate such stability issues. It is therefore left to others to wonder what their purpose really is in such a closure report other than to set tasks but never to really evaluate them.<\/p>\n<p>In short on looking out of the window I see no rain, yet a highly paid individual on television told me in pretty presented pictures that there would be that morning- based on what weather satellite computers had said were accurate. It is little more than reading tarot cards trying to predict the stability of a slope using a computer model.<\/p>\n<p>The report noted\u00a0 &#8220;vandalism&#8221; pointing to the fact that\u00a0\u00a0there were tresspassers on the site, unless they are blaming Rhodia employees or passing badgers or foxes? The fact that their monitoring took place over just only 4 months doesn&#8217;t show anything- not a\u00a0&#8220;long term&#8221; study at all. The &#8220;vandalism&#8221; mentioned was noted by us on a few occasions when we saw individuals digging for bottles on the embankment in 2009. But all this alludes to a failure in the companies ability to manage their site securely, whilst at the same time however allowing blame to be placed if something were to go wrong.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4051\" style=\"width: 616px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/2030_0101rhodia0074.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4051\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-4051\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/2030_0101rhodia0074.jpg\" alt=\"2030_0101rhodia0074\" width=\"606\" height=\"397\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4051\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Trespassing Diggers on the north embankment<\/p><\/div>\n<p>WE WONDER IF SAMUEL BARNETT BLAMED TRESSPASSERS WHEN HIS <a title=\"Yer on the slide Sammy\" href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/scan00171.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EMBANKMENT FAILED IN 1899?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Innacurate statements made in this report include<\/p>\n<p>PAGE 13 <em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;It is understood that Albright and Wilson originally purchased the site in 1948 for the disposal of chemical waste resulting from the manufacture of phosphate.&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/em>WRONG THE LAGOON HAS BEEN IN USE <a title=\"1942\" href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/scan0026.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;SINCE 1942&#8221;<\/a>&#8211; SOURCE West Midlands County council waste licensing committe report 1977.<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;From 1970 to present day, waste slurry is and as delivered by road tanker and fed into the lagoon by a floating pipe to avoid the occurence of &#8220;waste islands&#8221; in the lagoon.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>WRONG IT CONTINUED TO BE DELIVERED BY CANAL BARGE VIA THE NORTH EMBANKMENT <a title=\"Strong anecdotal evidence\" href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/?page_id=3645\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AFTER 1972<\/a>. The above\u00a0comment also shows ignorance to Rhodia and Albright and Wilson&#8217;s total inability to control these waste islands from occuring. They should have shown URS the Environment Agency inspection reports which frequently told them to reduce these <a title=\"FIRE LIARS\" href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/scan0027.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;waste islands.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>WE DO NOTE HOWEVER<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">To\u00a0reduce the potential for a reaction between the phosphorus and the air, the waste is stored under water. This reduces the potential for the release of toxic fumes.&#8221;<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>So here we have the admission that the fumes released from the &#8220;safe&#8221; waste can be toxic, which is something never communicated to us in any of the <a title=\"THEY LIED!\" href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/?page_id=199\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">historic meetings <\/a>that we were invited to at the Trinity Street site before or after this stability risk assessment.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>ABOUT FACE<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The unfolding works undertaken in 2013 have included <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>significant works<\/strong> <\/span>to the North embankment, that were not deemed necessary in Rhodia&#8217;s initial closure report (REMEMBER THIS INCLUDED &#8220;THE AFTERCARE PHASE&#8221;). It is fundamentally clear to anyone with a degree of intelligence, that this slope was slipping. The &#8220;shallow slips&#8221; refered to in the URS report obviously required remedial attention to prevent larger slips.<\/p>\n<p>The pictures below chronicle the about face of this slippery slope, and how geo material was added to cover over the cracks in Rhodia&#8217;s closure plan for the site.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/scan0022.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3786 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/scan0022.jpg\" alt=\"scan0022\" width=\"539\" height=\"522\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>2006 when waste was still being delived to the site -stable?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20100801-064525004.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-8698\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20100801-064525004-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" srcset=\"https:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20100801-064525004-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20100801-064525004.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>8\/2010 stable?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20130430-163206002.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-8699\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20130430-163206002-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" srcset=\"https:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20130430-163206002-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20130430-163206002-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/20130430-163206002.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>30\/4\/ 2013 stable?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/20130515-163246.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3981 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/20130515-163246.jpg\" alt=\"20130515-163246\" width=\"581\" height=\"338\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>15\/5\/2013 Stable or unstable now?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1150003.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3982 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1150003.jpg\" alt=\"H1150003\" width=\"592\" height=\"351\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>June 2013 But is it stable?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1310003.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3983 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1310003.jpg\" alt=\"H1310003\" width=\"601\" height=\"351\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>After the geotextile has been laid- stable?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1310037.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3984 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1310037.jpg\" alt=\"H1310037\" width=\"592\" height=\"353\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1560007.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3985 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1560007.jpg\" alt=\"H1560007\" width=\"360\" height=\"640\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Cracks starting to show after soil has been battered down on top of that- stable?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1720009.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3986 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1720009.jpg\" alt=\"H1720009\" width=\"590\" height=\"348\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>geo mesh added in August 2013- stable now?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1730016.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3989 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1730016.jpg\" alt=\"H1730016\" width=\"587\" height=\"355\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This worker is installing pegs on the North embankment. It is not an experiment- he is doing so to make the embankment more stable.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3987\" style=\"width: 605px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1730019.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3987\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3987\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1730019.jpg\" alt=\"H1730019\" width=\"595\" height=\"354\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3987\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Covering up the cracks<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1770007.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3990 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1770007.jpg\" alt=\"H1770007\" width=\"595\" height=\"355\" \/><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1770006.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3991 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/whatliesbeneathrattlechainlagoon.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/H1770006.jpg\" alt=\"H1770006\" width=\"593\" height=\"352\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The entire area identified in the URS stability risk assessment report using the surveying pegs- stable now?<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;The investigation was undertaken primarily to assess the potential of a slope failure impacting on the Birmingham Canal, which is located on top of the embankment and approximately 40-50m from the embankment crest.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>STABILITY RISK ASSESSMENT Stability Risk Assessment[1] SUPPLIED INFORMATION RELATING TO AN ASPECT OF THE RATTLECHAIN SITE&#8217;S CLOSURE REPORT. This report was sent to us by The Environment Agency as part of a freedom of information request. 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